0106 - Small & Unannounced: Unity & Underground Churches (w/ Karen Ellis)


Hosts: Isaac Adams & Trillia Newbell

Guest: Karen Ellis

Overview: “Jesus told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field…” (Matt. 13:31)

Missiologist Karen Ellis joins Isaac Adams and Trillia Newbell to share insights about race and unity from her work with underground churches. Karen focuses on the faithfulness of brothers and sisters in churches around the world as they do work that is small and unannounced. That’s what the things of the kingdom typically are—small, quiet, unannounced. Nonetheless, Karen reminds us that, “Unity may not be loudest voice out the gate, but praise God, it’ll be the voice that lasts into eternity.” 

If you have ever felt like you’re not an expert on race and unity, if you have ever felt spiritually flabby in your prayer life, join us for this episode. In it, Karen reminds us of the freedom there is in faithfulness and in not having our voices dominate the scene and she speaks to other questions as well: 

Is race a only a challenge for American churches? How has the conversation about race changed for evangelical Christians over the years? Do you have to be an expert to speak about race, the church, and justice? 

The powerless have a word about power. If believers in a loud world can be quiet enough, we just might hear it. 

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Recorded and produced by Karl Magnuson
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Rob Alvey